Old 02-25-2008, 06:50 PM   #1
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That said, ++1 for being being able to make automation as items, and move them around! maybe that could become an expansion of the new pencil too... Pencil over automation notes to put them in an item. Or something.

incidentally, that little video I posted... only has one track in the mixer (1 and the master fader, cause if you duplicate a track that is not shown mixer... then it duplicates hidden form the mixer...

thanks for the look.

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I'll post the link to the vid if anyone needs clarification
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:57 PM   #2
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this would be dope!
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Old 02-26-2008, 02:56 AM   #3
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+1

... and "per-item envelopes" too
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:57 AM   #4
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And I think this also. I just did a Remix in Reaper yesterday, and was very happy that I was able to speed up the tempo and the vocals stayed intact and sounded better than the pro-tools elastic audio, dare I say better than the Melodyne algos which is where I think all of it comes from.

I'm tempted to post the remix here. I probably will a little later, to let you guys hear how good the elastic audio is in Reaper. God Damn it's good. I sped the song up like 20 or 30 BPM and it sounds ree donk ulously natural.

Who ever had the idea to add sound touch or whatever that Elastik PRO algo is

YOU

FUCKING

KILLED

IT.

Thanks. Can we get the stuff below too Justin.

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So maybe, to clerify part of this as a "feature request", we need what I'll just call "Reference Tracks":

A reference track to track number 8 would be 8*, you can put additional objects on these tracks (audio, midi, whatever), but FX/volume/pan/routing/automation are shared or referenced. Of course, what envelopes you are "viewing" can be different, and that would be the next simplifying feature request:

"Solo View Envelope", maybe add it the current existing right-click dialog?


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Just a small "tip" guys, you can use "Empty Items" to enclose envelopes (with envelope object lock enabled) and get close to the ease demonstrated here by larry. I do this all the time actually. It's a small step, yes, but for me a useful one nonetheless. Now if we could just "copy" and paste these objects and have envelope points also copy. And of course, native support of envelope-to-midiCC... OK, I think it's clear, and I'm just echoing what everyone is saying/thinking, but I've just started to try and use midi and these points ARE the big hurdles for me, so I thought I'd share my opinions. OK, bye...
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Youn, i think that the 8*/reference track thaing is a step away from the one-track-paradigm. And if that can of worms is opened, good lord look out.

Does a reference track do that a regular duplicate doesn't? If you don't want it to show up in the Mixer, then make sure the source track doesn't.

As for the Automation on separate tracks... I, personally love the Show envelopes in separate lanes when x Pixels high! i like to be able to mod-mousewheel my zoom level and display the automation, or hide it again, and not have to click around to remember which track it points to.

I agree, that these two feature requests are essential:
Copy and paste envelope points with items, when Options: Move envelope points with media items is enabled!!!!
and Convert automation to midi CC.

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Old 03-14-2008, 05:59 PM   #5
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"I agree, that these two feature requests are essential:
Copy and paste envelope points with items, when Options: Move envelope points with media items is enabled!!!!
and Convert automation to midi CC."

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Old 03-19-2008, 02:31 AM   #6
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I guess this could be done with empty (of audio) items/lanes so you out them in parallel with audio items/lanes on whatever position and tracks
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Anyone opposed to me grouping this thread as "Automation Clips/Items" on the FR tracker?

!group "Automation Clips/Items"
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:43 PM   #8
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Default envelopes per iten

I think the "per iten" thing is a great way of thinking


you get the most of flexibility
just as we can add fx in individual itens - which is awesome - controllin individuals envelopes would be cool as well
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Old 03-27-2008, 03:48 PM   #9
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Forgot to out my

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Old 03-29-2008, 08:41 AM   #10
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++1! yes yes yes!
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Old 05-21-2008, 06:43 AM   #11
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+1
that would be cool
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:01 AM   #12
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Hi,
There is already a (known) workaround.
The only drawback is that if the plugin has not yet MIDI CC controls you will have to assign first some MIDI CC to the VST parameters you want to automate.
After, it is simple :
- insert a new MIDI item on the same track where you already have the audio items
- draw the CC curves you want in the MIDI editor
- it's all !
You can drag, copy, stretch the automation datas, group the automation items together with the audio items etc.
A semi transparent MIDI item would be appreciated, but it is already wonderful when used in a free item position track.
(if only we could see several controller lanes at the same time !)
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Old 05-26-2008, 03:27 PM   #13
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plus one! badly needed.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:49 PM   #14
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Quote:
++1 for being being able to make automation as items, and move them around!
+100000000000000000
it could be so easy:
just copy the track you want to automate to directly below, create an empty item of whatever lenght, and paint the automation into it ... i just don`t understand why exept logic no other host provides this ...
i personally hate trackbased automation, item based is just so much more flexible ...
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still not there (item env`s is not the same), so here`s another bump ...
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+1 to be able to move/copy automation with the media item, and convert automation to CC
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